There will be some necessary changes in the standard policy of “anything goes” that had been adopted previously. Read on.
There are currently over 120 submissions waiting for publishing. These submissions typically comprise about 60% poetry, 35% rants and insults. I do want them all to be seen, even though many of them I don’t feel should be published on the main page.
Darkness, or Gothic or any other interest shared here doesn’t need to be negative. It doesn’t need to be insulting or harassing to others. It doesn’t need to be about hate or promote prejudice against another belief.
I would like to see Darksites be about support for like-minded. I would like to see Darksites provide a hub where others can find what they seek and feel comfortable doing so. I don’t want to be put in the position where I have to ban someone.
Please respect everyone here, including me. If you don’t like Darksites, then please don’t come back. When you come here, you come here of your own choice. When you use a service that is provided here, you do so of your own choice. If anything is broke, let us know. If it can be fixed, I will fix it. If I don’t know how, obviously I can’t but please don’t be rude. I may not reply to your emails (or icq’s) but don’t think that I’m just ignoring it. Believe it or not, some of the emails and submissions I have received are very rude and some border on being the most hateful things I’ve ever read.
Submission Guidelines are something I may implement soon to help my job be easier. Mostly what I’d like are for you to use the html tag for Paragraph separations if you know how to separate paragraphs. Something else that I’d like is for all Poetry to be submitted in the BBS. Compiling a few and formatting them is time consuming for me to do, in quantity. It would probably be easier for you to submit them to the BBS instead.
Submissions about how horrible Darksites or any of its members are, will be deleted. Personal attacks against Darksites or any of its members repeated beyond one post are asked to be taken to email. I don’t think we want visitors to Darksites to feel uncomfortable when they visit and stumble upon so much animosity and prejudice against another group. Consider this post my own personal rant, and plea for acceptance and maturity in what we display. This is in no way, a change in my no-censorship beliefs. I believe everything has its place, but again.. lets try to lessen the amount of negativity and hate.
Thanks all,
Sire
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I must agree with you on this subject, no one should be subjected to cruel treatment…
much agreed. good call, sire.
You bring up some very good points, (especially about the submission guidelines) and with which I happen to agree. Do what you see fit and I think you’ll find other’s see the same way too.
All the best,
deb.
trust me, we believe you. even here, its hard to get away from the confrontational side of the human nature.
Do what you see fit in reguard to submissions. It realy can’t hurt the site, and can help.
~n~
Thank you, Sire, for saying somethng about the word-violence going on, even though I have to apologize in participating in such myself, I guess I am under a bit of stress right now, and when I continually come across a particular poster that has nothing good to say, I have lashed back. Appropriate/deserved or not, it is still in bad taste, and I am ashamed of my own behavior, my own humanness…
On the other note, I have wanted to write you and ask about your suggestions on submissions, have not in order not to bother you because I am sure you are quite busy, but I guess I have more incentive to do so now. Again, thanks.
Never could understand why the negatives keep hanging around. It’s not just here though, the clubs get it too.
Yeah, lets go to a Goth club, only to give crap to all once we are inside. I just don’t get it.
Sire, you know who the true darksiters are. I think it’s time the point system was implemented somehow. Like you start off with 50 points upon joining, if you abuse someone, it drops 10 etc. To get points back, apologies, not swearing, and being helpful, but they only go up in increments of 5.
Good luck figuring out how to go about it all.
Hear, hear. I would recommend that you somehow define the difference between “heated debate” and “personal attack,” though - something that subjective is bound to cause misunderstanding. Trust me on this one. I speak from experience as the moderator of several e-lists.
heated debate attacks the debated argument
ex. All you wannabe goths can go to hell.. you just want to whine about everything and dress like the dead for attention!!!! Goths are uneducated and ugly trailer park trash.
personal attack attacks the debating person
ex. Your a fucking mental case and should be locked away somewhere. Where do you get off being self-righteous and claiming to know it all!?
My examples are probably pretty tame compared to many of the arguments I’ve seen and probably even participated in myself at times. However, I feel its important that any argument is allowed to continue its course as long as it doesn’t degenerate into an all-out flame session where the original debate itself is lost. I hope and think that it will be unnecessary for me to intervene in a situation like this anyway.
On another note, Sarah contact me by email about your interest in Pathway and maybe I can help in some way too.
THANK YOU……
Oh and I hope I haven’t been too much the cause of such problems? If I have please let me know, I admit my opinions tend towards negativity quite frequently.
I’m serious here folks feel free to tell me to shut my flap when you deem it appropriate!
Shadow-
My local ISP is having problems. Was planning on writing you. Will write soon - I’d rather not go into detail on Darksites.
We all have are moments of rudeness, “some more than others” I have had many a moment of just being a dick, “ask lord shadow” but i did say that i was sorry, and i feel that’s what is most important. Thinking people who make up their own minds will always have different opinions, it is the respect for one another that makes the difference.
ps. I realy like the idea that shok had.
You know, I feel a little like this article was directed (partially) towards me. I admit that I have participated in some of the acts, and I apologize if I have offended you or anyone else. And I also agree with your comment on the “wanna-be goths”. I have several friends who dress in darker colors only to upset their parents. They think that I’m weird for liking “darker” things, and I wish this would stop. You make a good point, Sire. Thanks for writing it out.
~*Nightkitten*~
{heated debate attacks the debated argument
ex. All you wannabe goths can go to hell.. you just want to whine about everything and dress like the dead for attention!!!! Goths are uneducated and ugly trailer park trash. }
I think you are mistaken. If Sire wrote the above, save me please.
Good idea. Couldn’t agree more, but the idea of awarding points for behaviour? that sucks.
Thanks for acting as the guardian most of us are looking for. I feel very welcome amongst the darksites family.
First off, thank you Sire for addressing the problem. I don’t understand where some people get off being rude. People bitch about how society discriminates against them because of their lifestyles, and then they to sit here and slag other people? What do they think they are doing? I’ll give you hint: it starts with a “d” and I already said it once in this comment.
very good point. i’ve seen a few people leave offensvie comments, if ya don’t like the site bitch elsewhere, if something that offends you is on the site, don’t look at it. very nice that you addressed the problem of the smart asses. thank you.
Dearest Faet55,
No worries bro, I respected you simply because you say stuff like. “Hey its late sorry if i came off like an asshole”. This tells me that you respect yourself and others. Because you are willing to say that whatever your opinion is, its not the absolute gospel. I only hope that people can say the same about me. I agree shoks idea does sound kinda cool, even though I’d end up floating in the 1-2 point range
Shadow
It’s not really awarding ppl for behaviour as I see it. However, more a taking down for bad behaviour. The people who don’t go out of their way to give ppl crap don’t really need to worry.
I see that this could be a problem - how, where do you start? It’s like putting a leash on society - bloody difficult.
Like I said in the previous post, best of luck doing this!!
Though censorship is usually a derturant to post for some, I believe it to a certain extent it can be a good tool on a website such as this. I have seen much wrose on other sites so it is good you want to stop it before it gets out of hand for lack of a better term I hope nothing I have said though has been very little offended anyone.
Sprite
Sorry for the Anonymous thing, it’s Rouge_Outlaw. Odd timing… Right after my first submission…
Well, what I sent was mostly a discussable topic-turned rant, but well, it was mine. I wish I had saved it, so that I could put it up on my site.
Sire, if you could, at least post it under my name in the directory. I would like for my voice to be heard, even if it is a bit suppressed. I didn’t mean for that to sound mean or sarcastic, but I felt like your decision was slightly weighed by my ranting.
(By the way, I apologize for the entire me-killing my priest thing. I truly do respect all life, even if that life doesn’t respect me.)