I’m stuck in a Private Catholic school. I don’t want to be here, I don’t want to study this shit, but I have to. Every single day I hear someone say: “Be good or God will punish you”. Then, in Religion classes they teach us not to be be afraid of God. If we take the right steps and if we believe in him, we’ll never be on his bad side. Then, I heard some where else that God was forgiving and he was nothing but good… The story had changes, funny don’t you think?! It’s funny how we all kiss this guy’s ass that’s never helped no one in the end and that’s never even changed nothing in our lives. Well, mine anyways. Then, when I express my opinions, I laughed at. It’s funny how things change in the story and how I’m told I should respect this “thing” that’s never even helped me out. People only want something to believe in, something to trust that isin’t really there. Religions are lies, and it’s fuuny that everyone believes in this stuff… Why does it even matter? I don’t need to believe in lies.-Kitty (courtney_w9@hotmail.com)
Something to Believe in…Lies.
May 23rd, 2001 | darkness
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Heh…That’s why i turned Atheist. I’m looking for a religion that God is excluded from. I checked out Satanism, and I am intrigued, but I sense there is somethign more waiting for me. And, no, I don’t want a happy happy cult. Anyways, I feel sorry for you. My grandma used to force me to go to church. And sing. *shudders*
a friend pointed this out to me the other day…religions are just like cults, but “good”–maybe because of their popularity..
another point, Shakespeare, a writer of comedy, helped re-word the bible so illeterate people could understand it–does that mean the book could be a joke? ::grin::
-ele.
to true. that would be why i choose not to take the path of religion anymore. it can’t keep track of itself. the more religion progresses the more confusing and stupid it gets.
dont get me wrong about what im about to say. ive done my share of studying the religions and i know that some satanists dont really worship satn.. but how can you be athiest and be satanist?? you have to believe in god to believe in satan…god created satan "suposably" but anyway. if your going to worship satan..i would personally stop referring to myself as atheist…or else stop referring to myself as satanist…one or the other. not trying to sound mean but im picky about the whole religion subject
you have my empathy…
society has a base this base is religion…without religion we’ll all see the truth…some might not be able to handle it…religion is something which gives answers to the immpossible…and make our kind seem smart…if religion was never here…then everything would fall apart…for this is our whole weakness
Hold on there honey - there is a God and well, Catholics have the shittiest way of telling you that.
God can be harsh if you don’t believe in Him. Now, if you do believe in Him and trust Him - which is *REALLY* hard to do, believe me! - then He is a wonderful shoulder to lean on; Shakespear wrote the Bible because while the King’s and Queen’s writers could translate it, *he* could write it so that people on the streets could understand it; the Bible isn’t a joke either - do you know how many events that occured in the Bible have actually been proven to be real? Every last one of them.
I am so glad that I stumbled across your entry. It’s great! You have successfully expressed how I used to feel about God. I too had a very difficult time understanding what I had to do to be “good”. You are so right, religion sucks! You see, we as human beings can try all we want to be “good” but we will fail every time. We both know that every time we try on our own we screw it up. Being a christian is not about doing “good works”, so we can get to heaven. If that was the case then we could save our selves by something that we did on earth. God knew that we could not do it on our own, so He sent His only Son to pay the wages of our sinful and helpless hearts. But He didn’t create us like robots, who have no choice but to do as their told. No!, He wanted someone to love Him because they chose to, on their own. God is just like us in that aspect, in that all we really want is for someone to love us because they choose to. On that note I share some good news with you!, it’s okay to get tired of trying to live a good life. That is exactly where He wants you to come to in your life, when you realize that you can’t do it without His help. You see, instead of having “religion” with us, He wants to have a “relationship” with us. When you finally surrender your life to Christ, His Spirit will do a miracle in your heart. Then and only then, will you truly have peace, and confidence in your salvation. I stand as a living testimony as to what He will do in a persons life, if they simply invite Him into their hearts. Remember its a free gift for all who ask for it. We’ll never be able to earn His love and mercy. He already loves you today, tomorrow, and forever. All you have to do is accept it and recognize your dependency on Him. He is perfect love, that will never leave us or hurt us. God is not the one who sends us to hell, we are. It sounds funny but its true! You see, from the day of our birth we are on a pathway to to corruptness.(Thanks to Adam & Eve)For instance did anyone have to teach you to lie? No! We’re just born that way. Being in school you’ve probably already heard all this, but I urge you to not just let it get into your mind, but more importantly into your heart. It’s one thing to know about Christ but it’s quite another to actually know Jesus Himself. At this point He wants you to just talk to Him, like you would talk to someone sitting beside you. Tell Him what your angry at Him about. He wants to hear it! He wants all of your pain, sorrow, disappointments, everything! He wants it all “He’ll take it and stretch it as far as the East is from the West.” Then He will begin to put peace, joy, and purpose into your life. That’s exactly the way that I came to the “Lord of Lords”. I encourage you to just spend a little time with Him, and share your heart with Him,NO MATTER WHAT YOU”VE DONE!!,you cannot out sin God. He’s not mad at you, don’t ever believe that lie. His love is “everlasting”, it never ceases! I hope I’ve been some help to you, and I’ll be praying for you. If you have any questions whatsoever feel free to e-mail me.
In Christ
Like i said, I’m athiest now. i want to get into something else. I looked at the laws/rules/whatever you want to call them of the big S, and they seem pretty fitting to me. I dunno, maybe i just shouldn’t have a religion. I’d just screw it up anyways…or maybe i criticize things too much. i always criticize and scrutinize any religion, and i don’t think i should get into anymore.
I went to a “private” Catholic school for many years of my life. I had to threaten my parents to get out of the second one. The first one wasn’t too bad because I was younger, didn’t care, and I left the year I started to “change.” My next school was a living hell. The religion classes made me angry. They sucked. I mean, sure, i would try to go along with it. Kids laughed at me, too.
Well, I’ve got news for them, ..they’re wrong. Don’t believe that bull, is what I say. If god was real (yes this is an immature and frequently asked question) why do millions of people suffer everyday? There are many more questions to ask about this “god.” I will not capitalize his name, ..I got punished for that when I was in the catholic school. Now at public school, I went to some stupid religion classes for a while, they disturbed me. They really did — probably like I disturb other people around me.
The second catholic school I went to was depressing. The people there did “sin,” as Catholics say. On a survey, I gave the school all ones, which was the lowest score. They said it was confidential, although we had to give some information. Guess what? A few days later they were scanning my homeroom for girls that either didn’t go to church, or went to another. There were only three of us. Obviously, I was the one. My mother had complained before. The next day at lunch I was singled out.. by the principal.
He asked me why I didn’t like the school, and believe me, I had my reasons. They were good reasons. I’m not implying that you should threaten your parents, but try to leave them little hints that you don’t like the school..
That school was a nightmare, it really was. I was called a witch and was taunted at. I had people say “burn her at the stake.” But, that’s kids these days, even if I am one. This wasn’t that long ago, either.. maybe two or three years ago.
Good luck, and don’t let them brainwash you.. don’t let them get to you.
Remember, the Catholics are the ones who implied that people who were mentally delayed were possesed by “demons.” I have worked with them, and I used to want to be a social worker. So, shove that in their faces.
As for me.. I don’t know. I am still searching. I’ll end up deciding on Wicca, Aethism, or to be Agnostic.
~ LethargicWish
I’m really sorry for you - and not how you might think. I sincerely apologize for the hell you went through at that catholic school and I wish I could apologize for them. But I can’t.
Oddly enough, I actually know *exactly* where you’re coming from. How? I used to be a high druid priestess - up until around, oh, February of this year. I had a hand-made altar, books and books of rituals and histories of the wicca religions and pagan religions and had over a hundred little hand-made items for rituals. I went to a local coven meeting every month and talked really closely with my Mistress who first initiated me into Celtic magic.
My parents and I had a huge arguement - over the course of months - about my being non-Christian and it finally came to a head when I got found out by my parents and therapists on my cutting and burning. I got ‘clean’ so to speak - no sharps objects and no open flames or even incense at all - and I got closed off from my friends. I had been dating a seriously wicca guy and when I stopped seeing him for a week, I looked at our relationship - or really, his controling of me - and dropped him. I stopped wicca while I spent over a month searching for answers to questions about religions and my faith and what I really believed in until I stumbled upon a church that sang.
Not hymns, but modern rock and punk music aimed at Christ. Translation, the stuff I loved to listen to. I sat down and listened to the sermon - spoken by a wacky guy - and then I came back the next week. I spent hours on-line reading about the church and reading its doctrine and talking witht eh pastoral staff before I gave up wicca and became a Christian again.
I really hope that you just stay open to other possibilities - I hated when people tried to force something on me so I understand how infuriating it HAD to be with the catholics and their inquiries - they still live in the middle ages in my opinion.
I hope you don’t run into more biggots - be they religious or otherwise; I’ve had my fair share of problems with them and arguements with them too.
~Shino
The only thing I have to say about this subject is that the Bible is the biggest book of fairytales you can read…and “god” is a killer, if you think about it look at those STORYS in the bible…he sent his only son to earth to die? Hmm nice father. And he drowned innocent people in a flood…who is to say that those people were “evil” and to who’s opinion? Also they preach that man was made in “gods” image so why are there people like Charles Manson and all the rest of those sick bastards who rape little children and go around killing other people…Hmm theres another question for “god” believers but its a shame I’ve never once ran into ONE “god” believer that could answer those questions. And for all the people that don’t agree with me and choose to believe in your all mighty “god” then go right ahead…but dont expect me to believe in some guy no ones ever seen, the day you see this wonderful savior tell him to come over and shoot the shit with me…then and only then will I believe in your “god”
Belive in yourself……..Don’t follow the weakminded.
Believe in yourself……..Don’t follow the weakminded.
I totally related to this writing. I understood it completely. i am forced to go to that damn church even though I believe absolutly nothing that they try to shove into my mind. They say that EVERYTHING you could possibly do is a sin, I mean, you cant live without sinning. So I hear you!
religion can actually teach you a whole lot. i’m not saying that you should believe in everything they tell you. the problem is that people take the shit literally, and that isn’t how it is meant. the bible was written by humans as stories to teach people how to live. but things change in time. the things that you can get out of it are good history lessons, ethics, and knowledge to build your own beliefs upon.
someone else had written that they generally thought christianity (catholicism in particular) was crap, and turned to satanism. but satanism is based off of the former, so that is crap just the same!
the trick is to study as many religions as possible, and decide on your own truth.
good luck!
Hello! DisposableTeenGrrl,
Thanks for replying to my entry! I appreciate your point of view. I would just like to say that I am not like some other people who claim to be christians, then they get on here and bash everyone’s ideas. I do not believe that we need to argue and hurt other people to share our beliefs. I thought I would clear that up first, so you didn’t get mislead. I’ll answer your questions as best that I can. Hear goes: 1)Yes Jesus was sent to this Earth to bear our sins, but He had free will, and a choice to back out many times. He was tempted for forty days while in the desert, he was subject to the courts many times where He was repeatedly asked to take back everything He said. This is important because this would have most likely saved His life, but He often said nothing. Then finally in the Garden of Gethsemane He asked the Father if there was some other way that “we” could be saved. But the answer was no. So Jesus knew that He must bear our sins if we shall ever be saved. The Emperor Pilate asked Him to not do it and his life would be spared, but again He chose to hang on a cross for us so that sin did not have to rule our lives, if we would only believe and trust in Him. Therefore God is not a killer but “WE” are the killers! We killed our Saviour by choosing a common murdering thief instead of Him. The good news is this, that He still chose to love us and provide a way to salvation, “now that is Love”.
2) God didn’t kill everyone, they killed themselves. You see it took Noah over one-hundred years to build the ark. During that time He begged and pleaded with the people to listen to him. He was told by God that that there would be a great flood that would kill everyone who did not believe Him. You see God provided a way of salvation from death by means of the ark. People said that he was crazy and did not listen to him. They thought that if they went to the highest point in the land that that would be good enough. Too bad for them huh!. See they thought that they could save themselves, and refused help from God much like we do today. So therefore God did not kill them but they killed themselves.
3)People like Charles Manson are a good picture of what condition the world is in today, not to say that everyone is a child molester or a mass murderer, but he is a picture of someone who has never experienced a change in his life that only God can give. I understand that his life was very messed up, and he defintely “a few bricks shy of a load” so to speak. I myself am a victim of some very horrible things, that I would wish on no one, but I have found freedom in Christ. I have in no way forgotten those things, and they will sometimes rise up in my life, but I have a place to take those pains “at the feet of Christ.” When I pray about my pains, I can trust that they will be taken care of. There will always be scars, but the good news is that scars don’t hurt! I always thought it was strange to know that scars are stronger than the surrounding skin. Thats kind of what life is like for me now. The things I endured as a child have left “scars” but those circumstances have molded my life and now I have found freedom from those open wounds on my heart. I am now able to help others find freedom. Which way do I point? To the Cross my friend. It was not me, but he that bore my pain and sorrow, and no self-help classes and no educated idiot sitting behind a desk can ever replace what He has given me. I hope that was of some help to you. I don’t believe in spitting out the Bible to people, but simply taking time with people and loving them for who they are. After all, thats what He has done for me.
ksquare, my thought exactly. i honestly don’t beleive in god anymore, though i used to, but what i’ve learned from the experience is almost worth it. this “go to church on sunday” is bull. there’s nothing special about that one day every seven in the week. the bible, however, does have some, and i’m not saying all (read the parts on homosexuality for instance), very good thoughts in it. the whole damn thing wasn’t written by one guy alone, and some of them have some insightful ideas.
religion, itself, is just that, however: something to believe in. “you only have one life, don’t waste it,” right? don’t even catholics say that? anyone could spend all day and find a thousand different loopholes in the church, and it’s own teachings undermine itself. i have found that your last statement, about finding your own truth, has already worked for me. try it, everyone.
ok now that’s not true. there are SOOO many things in the Bible that have not only not been proved, but have been DISproved. creation being one of the main ones along with several major old testament battles. one such instance is when the Israelites “smote” the Amalekites before Amalek (the forefather of all Amalekites) was even BORN.
I totally understand what you’re saying. I used to go to a Christian school and I hated it! It’s definitely true that the whole christian story keeps changing! But not all religions are lies. I’ve been Wiccan since October ‘99 and it has totally changed me! You should check it out, do some research on it, it could be the religion for you! Oh, and please go and check out my webpage: http://www.geocities.com/jamiejimbo
Ugh. I went to Catholic school for middle school and high school. In middle school no one liked me and took any comment I made as an excuse to pummel me or humilitate me by spitting on me, laughing at me, putting dead animals in my desk, etc. Any question I asked about religion was used as an example to the class of what an ignorant, faithless loser would ask. As far as I’m concerned, faith is what you need when you have no proof and want to be convinced of your own sorry made-up hateful existence you have created for yourself via the “church”.
As for high school, I had a few friends, most of whom got sent to “alternative school” by their parents, leaving me by myself as my mom refused to let me leave the school under any circurcumstances. I made a few friends, but never was really close to them. They liked me, but thought that I was weird and depressing and didn’t really bother to get to know me. I tried to kill myself junior year by taking a shitload of advil, but all it did was give me a wretched tummyache and the realization that there has to be something beyond a fake-ass education and fair weather friends.
So here I am, in my mid twenties, trying to get through college (public university, thank you very much)and pretty much ostracized by my family for never becoming catholic, for living with myboyfriend, for dressing weirdly and for being myself. Well, let them be small minded and self-righteous. You live with your philosophy and be miserable and worried that god will smote you for touching yourself and I’ll live mine, which is do things my way and kiss my arse.
-Maia
i like your entry.and i see what you mean.i’m atheist and i’m that because religions have too many holes.especially christianity.
I do feel sorry for you. No one should be forced to do anything they do not wish to do, but I also feel sorry for you because you don’t have anything bigger than yourself to believe in. Everyone has to find God on their own and come to their own terms about religion, but you’ve just turned your back on something before you’ve really tried hard to understand it. Give it some time and try to look at it objectively and you may find something there that you missed before.