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I was asked the other day, “What is gothic? What do goths actually do?”. It’s not the first time I’ve been asked this, but it was the first time I actually decided to think about it. Being a goth obviously means different things to different people, as would any other sub-culture. I percieve being gothic as expressing yourself in ways that shock other people. It’s not a fashion statement. It’s not a musical taste. It’s not disrespectful to others. But that’s just my definition. I guess I’m writing this to find out what your idea of goth is.

The trees swayed, the owls hooted, and the moon shined its light upon the cemetery’s ground. I stared up into the star-filled sky, so peaceful. One hand I held my equipment and a cigarette in the other. Took one puff and let it drop to the ground and smothered it with the tip of my shoes. It was time! Continue reading →

Author Note: I made this to put a little comic tone into the goth section, so I hope you all enjoy…I base this off my own experiance (were not all born goth, ya’ know) and the change of others. Enjoy.

Step One: Realization:

Hi! And welcome to Goth Labs…we really don’t do anything at Goth Labs, infact, it’s not real, it’s just a silly name to help this comic view, yet the message itself is very real, and it may be comic, but it still can be used if a prep wants to be goth, so lets look at the process…shall we?

First, a prep must realize the world of Goth. This is mainly three things: The realization that popularity does not matter, the realization that goth is sub-culture to debunk pop musics and cultures, and, finally, the realization of pain.

The first: Popularity. What exactly is this thing? Not everyone has it, but every has craved it. Some break out before it damages them to much, yet in the end, most are conumsed by it like a rabbit consumed by a dung beatle….not to debunk science and say that a beatle could consume a rabbit…but…moving on!

What exactly is popularity? Dictionary.com says: Intrinsic polar separation, alignment, or orientation, especially of a physical property: magnetic polarity; ionic polarity. Hmm, that doesn’t seem right…Oh, I typed in polarity, sorry…what it says about popularity is: The quality or state of being popular, especially the state of being widely admired, accepted, or sought after.

Hmm…well, what if your not? It hurts, plane and simple. How do people deal with this? Differn’t ways: Drugs, Crime, even Suicide. But, one way, which doesn’t involve major damage to your self, is Goth! One must realize that goth is not a religion, cult, or any of those other things (not to say a goth person can’t be religious, or that a cult member can be goth, or that George Bush can go fuck himself…of course, thats a little off subject)

So, the second: Debunking of Pop. What is pop? Pop can be defined in the disco era, when disco was rampant. Goth started then, as a means of debunking this uber-trend: Disco. Now, the goth culture wasn’t really called ‘goth’ per say, it was really Punk. Punk began, and has begun to be one of the MAJOR debunking trends…yet, of course, if it’s major, it’s not really rebellic, now is it?

Around the 80’s, to celebrate concerts and there rebellious attitudes, punks started dressing in blacks, and wearing make up. They used simple items, for Hot Topic (i.e. the devil) didn’t exist back then.

Soon, the trend increased, branhcing from california out to the world, and spawned a new culture, away from punk, even more debunking then it’s father. Hot Topic (a.k.a. the evil one) was a product of this era, letting people spend 40.00$ on a ring that was cheap metal and turned my finger green (To Hot Topic: I’m still waiting for my refund.)

Now, the third: Pain. Pain? Where does pain come in goth? Alot of things. People turn to goth for alot of reasons: They weren’t ‘cool’ enough, so they decide to try something new. There family is goth. The trend looks neat. They are in pain because of there peers and there peers culture. The last one is very, very common. Now, the first is similliar, yet lacks the pain. You see, Goths usually have some sort of event in there lives that drives them to gothdum: a death in the family, a twisting realization, and, worse off, a suicidal attempt. People wear black when they mourn…well, consider pain indused gothism as a long period mourning.

Does that mean goths without pain aren’t really goth? Of course not! Goths aren’t choosy like preps…want to be goth? Sure! No problem!

Step Two: Poseur Proofing

Now that you realized some thing about gothictarium, you must poseur proof yourself. What is a poseur? Someone who copies the goths around him when he enters goth. I made the mistake of doing this, I had no intention to ‘pose’ it just happened. I wore the same shirt as someone else had the day before, who was also goth. I had no real intent, and didn’t notice it, yet goths can be cruel as well as preps, and basically, I was ridiculed for it.

I beleive it took three monthes to Psoeur Proof myself after…let ye not make that mistake!

To poseur proof, you must build into gothic. Don’t come to school one day (or work or whatever, it’s just that school is were goths usally start on the path of gothictariumismdoodlydadium) don’t come to school with a slayer shirt, pale makeup, black hair, and black jeans, with a leather trenchcoat, and a pentagram necklace, when the day before you were wearing a yankees hat, a shirt saying ’sk8trs rool!’ and khakis. You will be called poseur like you have no idea, trust me. And what of the preps? They call you a Satanist (lovely, huh?)

So, what must you do? Build up into gothism. Make friends with some goths if you can, start wearing black shirts without band names or any other gothic seeming apprel. Listen to some punk, and say you like punk, then move on over to metal, and slowly creep your way over into goth. Edit this sytem as you see fits.

Step Three: Little Jonny Goth!

Well, lets look at Jonny here…he seems to be fitting the system fairly well, huh? Whats that? A problem Jonny?
The kids at school make fun of you? You want to kill yourself? Your taking drugs? The price of goth. Often there are the bad apples that ruin the crop. Drugs are OK when there haluccigenic, or not damaging, but some are fatal: Heroine, Cocaine, etc. And, killing yourself might be because of the pain, true, but you must live past that. The kids at school make fun of you is bad too, but you have to live past it. Remembver, your being differn’t, your being who you want to be…your being unique.

Step Four: Being yourself…

Don’t like goth or prep? Then thats not being yourself, now is it? If goth doesn’t work, move on. Being goth when yuo don’t want to is no better then being prep when you don’t want to. Remember, goth is not about raping and killing virgin blondes over an alter (of course, that can be enjoyable ^_^) it’s about being differn’t and unique, and being yourself. So don’t do it if it doesn’t feel right, because then it’s not being yourself…now is it?

In closing: Thank you for joining me and Goth Labs on this journey through gothdum…next time: We look at the exciting world of Christianity…have fun!

Now, yall’ come back no, ye’ hear?

I love how no matter how down I am- feeling like it can’t get any worse- there’s always that one person, standing in the backdrop; waiting to agitate you more than you already are. There’s always one person ready to make you feel like shit with their pety, selfish comments. Or that one bitch from school who doesn’t even have the balls to say anything- just sit and stare. It’s not often that I get a compliment from anyone other than my mom, trying to make me feel better about the miserable world we all live in. I think, how can she say that… she knows it’s a lie. Everything is just a lie. Especially when people rave about how things will get better. How can people say that and truly mean it? It gets me thinking, are some actually content with the lives they lead? And why can’t I be like that? Not that I want to live a false life, I’d rather be sad and honest about life than happy and advocating a falacy. I just want… mediocrity. Nothing in my life is less than a typical teenage melodrama… except it’s real. I wish that people would be indifferent of how I dress and act. Who the fuck are they to judge me when their biggest concerning is passing the next exam and fitting in with the standards of society. And they all have that same lifeless stare when they look at you. It’s almost as though they’re seeing through you, but grasping the general point that you’re different. My invisibility doesn’t even phase them anymore. You would think that after knowing these worthless animals for a year, they’d know that the gothic chick named Kat sits in the very last desk in the furthest corner of the room. You choose who you wish not to see. You know they’re name and you know that you don’t like them and wish not to see them- so you don’t. I’m beginning to think that I have some weird ability to come in and out of life. It’s like the people don’t know I’m there- they’re not choosing not to see me; they just don’t, or perhaps can’t. So my apparent invisibility keeps me miserable until one person decides to stand up and say “Hey Kat, what’s new?”

Every night from the time I was two my father has beaten me. He beat my sister and my mother because I was born. He would throw me across the castle rooms and laugh as I would crash into the stone walls. The only peace I found each day was when I was with my beloved Rachel. Continue reading →

Maybe it’s just me, but don’t you find it funny how everyone seems to want to be different, and when they finally are they bitch and moan about how no one accepts them? I laugh when people say they no longer want to conform themselves to the shallow mold of society, yet cry when all of the clones wont let them graze in their field. Don’t you get it? You wanted to be different so you could finally be your own…finally have something worth living for–yourself. And yet you belive that if you say bitter things and sulk in the shadows of the sun that you will be free? That your trendy black lipstick and screaming pop bands will make you loved by making you hated? HA! I love you guys… You’re my reason for living, becuase none of us know how to live, and that’s the gist of humanity. Pretty mundane, huh?

The Gothic lifestyle is something that many people that look in from the outside do not understand. For the largest portion, they cannot understand why we don’t want to wear happy clothes, hang out in huge crowds, and be up beat all the time. Something they would describe as “anti-social”, I would declair to be us deciding we do not want to be a member of the unwashed masses.
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I’m just a dark shadow, no one sees me anymore.. I am just an forgotten soul, know one knows me anymore.. I cut my flesh, to see that I am alive.. But I find it painful, and see that I become more forgotten to this world.. Why are you staring at me like that? Fuck off!! Don’t talk to me… You don’t see me… You don’t know me!!!! No one does!!!

I look back at pictures of the past, pictures that aren’t forgotten.. Pictures that almost died in my own flames of rage.. I see a little girl, with her family, so happy… With that bright like shining at her and her family… She was fucking happy… No worries, everyone knew her.. They loved her, but not me… I’m forgotten, not her…

That little girl… That little girl was me…. Yeah, so I’m goth now… But I’ve found my place now!! So don’t look at me like that!! Don’t you even remember?! Guess not.. I’m forgotten, know one knows me anymore.. Am I a monster? You wanna call me a monster now?!

I’m forgotten, no one knows me anymore… So what, I’m not that little girl anymore, but people grow up.. Why won’t you accept me?! So what I gaved up on god, know what.. The devil also, no such thing, fiction some idiot made….. But because of all this, you all forget who I am!!!!

I’m a goth chick, trapped to live in this world… So what?! I’m just a person, just like you!! Yet you treat me like shit and act like you forgot me… Oh I forgot, you did forget who I am… So? Fuck off, don’t talk to me!!

Ow!! It hurts!! Now I see I am alive, but now it hurts even more.. Why forget me? Why do I have to be the forgotten one.. So what, fuck it.. Ow, there goes the pain again.. So what, you don’t care, you don’t even know me!!! You don’t know I’m crying…… You don’t know I’m in pain…. But do you care?!

I’m all alone… These paraniod feelings… Their back to haunt me!!! I’m forgotten, you don’t even know me!! What, you wanna dim my pain? Fuck you!!! Like you said, I’m forgotten, know one knows me…. So fuck off!!! You made it like this, so leave me alone… No one knows me!!!!! I’m forgotten, even to myself….. The feel the shadows call my name, whispering…. These paraniod thoughts again… Am I dieing? So much blood, I’m forgotten…. No one knows me, they won’t know I’m gone… So then the darkness devours me….. Making me more forgotten, see, no one knows me…. They didn’t even know I was here…. So much pain… So alone……… I’m forgotten, no one knows me…. Not even myself……………..

all i want to say is life’s a bitch. we all no it. i mean im not trying to make ppl feel sorri 4 me or wateva im just trying to let ppl no a harsher reality. my life is realli shit i mean SHIT. atm i have 2 big gangs on my back im wanted dead for sumthing sumone else did. i hate skool coz everyonez either jock, teeny-boppy or happy. im none of those……. Continue reading →

im a younger generation ‘goth/metalhead’, and i suppose going by what i have read on this site that im a subject to ridicule for being a ‘poser’, but i dont see how people can label others as this without even knowing them and getting that small glimpse into their mind and soul.
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every time i come on to this site everyone is talking about lables, please just drop it. there are far more important things to life than labels. you can’t stop them so just ignore them. labels will never go away so just drop it, ignore it, whatever it takes, just quite with all the damn label talk already, PLEASE!

hello,i’m xena..i hope that the whole world can read my message…i need to talk to a gothic guy or a girl..i wanna become a goth and i cant find a way here in my country they’r abused…i need help plz ..contact me..reach to me…

I dont know who this will mostly appeal to. Maybe it will appear to all Goth girls or Goth gay boys, I dont know?!? Well, have a read for yourselves and see what you think….

Oh, and before i go on to talk about what i submitted this entry for…I MUST first note all this shit that is going on about people not wanting to be labelled as “Goths” or what have you. FIRST of all we HAVE to be labelled, wether we like it or not, we are labelled everyday of our lives, it’s a way of identifying people. Continue reading →

OK, I have been reading for a while. I agree with the people who are saying that you shouldn’t be trying to “find yourself”, just except what you are. You shouldn’t really have anything to figure out or find. And just because you dress in black, baggy clothes doesn’t make you who you are. Continue reading →

Hey, i’m really pissed off right now at my so called “friends.” i have gone to school wearing all black, the boots, studded belts, and black pants before just becuz i liked the outfit. Even then, i felt like i should be in a goth community without all the “normals” who call us Satanists. I know some are, but who gives a shit?? it really doesn’t matter, everyone has the right to their own religion or not to have one at all. People seem to be oblivious to that fact.
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I don’t get it. What is with some goths and their resentment towards baby goths/baby bats? I have somehow been shunned by the goths in my town for no reason that I can think of. I listen to the same music they do, I don’t insult them, yet they seem to feel I am “unworthy” to be in the scene. Continue reading →

Theres always post upon post of people complaining about being labelled. Be it goth, punk, freak, or just a free spirit, a deviation from the going ‘norm’ automatically attracts a label, no matter what you may say and do to justify yourself, you label them just as much.

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y do ppl judge others by the way the dress or the way they do there hair, if your a person that does this do me a favor and ask your self y, huh? y do u treat ppl like me that way does it make you feel better do u think it makes u look cool. Continue reading →

Okay. ive been going to this site for a few weeks so far, and whenever i read gothic, everyone is talking about being labeled. Why should you care what other people say about you?!?!?!? If someone is going to judge you by how you look, fuck them and go on with your own ways!

I’m alone in this tiny room, writing again. My mother’s telling me to go to bed, but I’m not listening. Who cares if it’s gone midnight? It’s not my fault she can’t appreciate the night. Night is when all creativity flows. Why waste it with sleep? Dreams are nothing, dreams hurt. I dreamt of you last night. Want to know what I dreamt?

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At school everyone has the groups the rednecks the freaks the nerd the geeks etc. i am tired of people being judged by the why they act ,dress or the jokes that they laugh at.
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Moving…back on this subject. Mom says I need to make myself over over the summer, before we move. You know, no more black clothing, no more weird assed bracelets & necklaces, no more black nails, no more spikes. I say no and that I’m going to keep wearing this stuff. Mom doesn’t think they’ll accept me in Key West. I don’t care, fuck them.

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why are people the way they are allways put into categories and labelled in this group or that, the sentence i have used most this few weeks is i dont care what he/she said about me please leave me alone, relaxing would be nice but people continuasly annoy and ask until you crack and hit some one and there “GROUP” re-labells you as enemy and the phisicall implicathions wich are caused never turn out the way of the minority, ME…

So I love this site. Many like-minded people converging to discuss everything. We all have a voice, but not one of us has a Face. The annonimity is awsome. Notyou can viley deface any post he comes across and broken dreams can give solice to anyone. But I am sure you all show the world how it is you want to live. how you see life. So what makes you goth? How does the world set you apart? Let us all know, Im sure it will be an interesting topic.

I need help i dont know what to do ever since i became a goth all my friends look at me diffrent… they all think there batter then me and i hate it they make fun off me and stuff like that there are only 4 or 5 that dont and my girlfriend witch i love. i hate poeple that think there batter then me and are shalow what should i do? should i get new friends?

America is a big ass mob.Thats it.Yeah its legal to be yourself and not be in the majority.But amercia gos and lynches us. We need some sort of gathering is what we need.Like Salem on Hallows Eve or we could have a big ass rave in the cottom fields of Mississippi.People(us and them) need to see there are more “goths” , and i use that term broadly, than they thought.I think we should organize such an event and do it this year.Millions of goths from allover this godforsaken country.Tell me what you think homes.

Peace,
JackTheRipper

Dear Friends: Oh jeez. You are lost. Labels? This is a negative term. A negative one. Labels are what you, of all people should avoid. They destruct, diminish and destroy everything that means anywhere within in the realm of anything. Kid, why don’t you just read a fucking book or take a long walk, rather than wasting you’re Earth-time on striving to ‘figure out’ that ever-thought-over mental plague some like to call, ‘finding yourself’. Continue reading →

You know what everybody???When ppl say stuff or they label u or don’t, DO NOT CARE. Its their fucking opinion and should it matter 2 u?? NO. So if you hear some asshole saying ure a loser ignore him! Those ppl are FUCKHEADS.

Just putting this as a suggestion NOT a statement

What is the gothic way of thinking? I dont really label myself as goth but I guess I do act like it, just asking YOUR opinions of what the gothic way of thinking IS ?

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I haven’t read for a while, but when did everyone start tring to find out what they are. You are yourself, whatever you make of it is your disision. Don’t let others tell you. If you are confused that’s ok, you’re going to be. If you’re so stuck on labeling yourself then you should stop thinking about what you are but about what you want to be. Continue reading →