Hello, no, no, this isn’t about cannabals or demonis lovers. No. This is a blurb about a project of mine that I need your help with. I’m working to put to gether a book that is inspired by one I saw of skinhead girls a couple years back.
I am the progenirator of a group called Make A Fist. What is that, you ask? It’s a “club” of sorts for women who are intro industrial or power noize. So far, Make a Fist is organizing a massive trip to Germany for next October to attend Maschinenfest ’03. I’m also starting to compile info for this book. Here’s what I need from you. The book’s working title is Make A Fist: A Collection. I need a picture and a short letter/essay from all those ladies interested. I ask that you write about the music you like, the scene you live in, how you got involved in it all and any other thoughts that you think pertain.
There is no Make A Fist webpage yet, thought it’s in the works. In the meantime, you can read about updates on my diary, [url=http://morguecrawl.diaryland.com]http://morguecrawl.diaryland.com[/url] Any submitions for the book should be e-mailed through that diary. Thanks.
what is power noize and intro industrial? i listen to a lot of music, but i’ve never heard of those? can you go into a little more detail? i’d love to help if i can.
Mouring star, you are crap! CRAP! CRAP I SAY CRAP! your musical ignorance makes you worthy of a good pinapple fuck!.
Kristen, I like you already. if you’re coming to Maschinenfest i’ll see you there, and afterwards we can take predigious amounts of speed and take the bastard drive back to my place where we will proceed to listen to skinny puppy and cover ourselves in paint while recording synth screams for my new album. do you know if Ogre is playing this year? and KMFDM? sascha needs a good spanking after what he did to my van. i’ll send you a submission after i work out what sex i want to be for it (rules be damned)
notyou, your a fucking moron, once again, the lead singer in Orge died just a little while ago, and you think they’ll be playing this year? If they do I’ll be amazed. And for you information, Mourningstar is an fantastic writer in comparison, so shut the fuck up and leave her alone!
Orge? I’m talking about Ogre, idiot – ex- lead singer of Skinny Puppy who now is running his solo project. Although I’m sure you would know nothing about that as you’re probably too busy listening to fucking Mudvayne with Schiz and all your other homoerotic asslove friends.
*blinks* I thought David Ogilvey was the ex lead singer of Skinny Puppy and…I was under the impression that he was dead? Regardless, they won’t be playing Maschinenfest. Iszoloscope may be though (which means I get to molest Yann some more. Mmmm….Frenchboy). Um, the lineup for next October hasn’t been released yet. They’re still all sorts of busy praising this years even still. MourningStar, if you want a playlist for downloading, look for Hypnoskull, Winterkalte, Venetian Snare, Iszoloscope, Vromb, Antigen Shift, Somatic Responses, Tarmvred, Placid, Klinik, Mental Destruction, Immenant, Converter, Dulce Liquido (I just saw Hoicico in concert last Monday which is Dulce Liquido + vocalist. It was AMAZING. Very high energy, along with Haujobb) and Aural Blasphemy. Those are all that I can think of, many of those were on the line up for the festthis year and may be back on it next year.
And isn’t Ogre in Covenant? *all sorts of confused* Next you’ll be telling me Daniel Meyer plays the synths for VNV Nation. Shit.
I am confused; a defininition of a RivetGrrl? I am assuming it’s hard music as I’ve heard the artists you two are speaking of and they are in the types of music I listen to, but we call them something else here. Usually the stereotypes / classifications / subcultures are different in each area and counrty, so can you two enlighten me?
Julia.
I’m not sure what you’re asking me, Julia. Clarify. You don’t call them Rivetgirls? Or grrls? I’ve heard them called that from Quebec to Germany and even in Tokyo. What do you call them?
All we have for classificatiosn here are ravers and those subsections of industrial, Kandie Kiddo, and skank. Then the ever so classic skaters, druggies, advanced druggies, smart asses, skin heads, commie nazis, prats (aka preppy whores who don’t know shit) and then the rest of the people just float between being labeled a goth or a person. Almost nowhere in NB will you hear anything other than those.
Julia.
If you’re goth you aren’t a person? Damn…Shitty deal for all you bats out there.
Okay, for the sake of clarity, though I am not one to commonly speculate on subcultures outside of the one I choose to identify with, I’ll try to lay things out.
First off, my boyfriend, a bonified Graver (I’ll get to that) would shit if he saw you apply the word “industrial” to the rave scene. Heh. He’s funny that way.
The only place that rave and “industrial” meet is through the roundabout of Industrial – EBM – Electrogoth – Darkwave – Darktrance/house/whathaveyou – Whatever the hell they play at raves. That’s how it connects. She the…what? 5 or 6 styles in between there? That’s significant.
Gravers are a phenomina which can be found dancing their glowy black clad spooky asses all over all those styles, though closer to the rave. Effectively, ravers that look like Goths. Sometimes mistaken for Cybergoth. A lot of people think Gravers and Cybergoths are interchangible. I like to thing of Gravers being the catapillar to the Cybergoth butterfly. (I can’t believe I just spat that crap) Anyways, Gravers tend to be younger and less educated and a little less wealthy unless they are still ridding the parental pocketbook.
Cybergoths are usually spooky members of the corporate workforce of good enough hackers that they don’t really *have* to work. Believe me, in the last couple of years I have met more than one person who doesn’t officially exist. I tend to be poilite to them and give them a wide birth.
So then you have the Industrial Genres. There is what you might call The Industrial Metalhead, but I haven’t heard and official title bestowed on these people except GET THE HELL OFF THE DANCE FLOOR FUCKWIT! But, you know, I’m sure that’s in the works. The listen to stuff like Static X and new Ministry and new KMFDM and generally think they are all badassed.
Then you have an Industrialite. This was the old term for the whole genre. This person has spread out across the whole top 40. They dig everything from Asseemblage 23 to Covenant to VNV Nation to Neuroticfish. Nothing wrong with those groups, I enjoy them as well as they are the easiest to come by. This is what the clubs play, what is affectionately refered to at the G/I Top 40. It’s the same wherever you go.
Then you have the Rivethead. This person would gladly go under the knife to have cybernetic parts put in. This person doesn’t dance, they STOMP. This person listens to music that, to other people, sounds like a completely automated factory on overdrive, ie Iszoloscope, Antigen Shift, Ah Cama Zots, Converter, P.A.L, Panacea, Needle Sharing and the list goes on and on. Rivethead rusts where a goth decays. Rivetheads come across as clone-like to outsiders. They often sport clothing that looks a little more punkish than goth, usually using bits and peices of
various uniforms. BDUs, camo, jump boots, short hair. Get the picture? Little clearer?
he he he you know me perfectly (hands shaking, sweating, eyes glazed over) I just got my barcode tattoo done and most of my music sounds like a ship is being built in my bedroom. notyou like notyou like alot. and Ogre, first name kevin, he spelt it nivek, I think he still has tear garden but kerrie (my freind, his ex) hasn’t spoken to him for a while, she says he’s finally gone crazy.
and you can have yann, just leave antigen shift to me (i dont care about the uglyness, I WANT MY TECH-SLAVES)
and isn’t it scary when you see a cybergoth freind wearing a blue suit talking on a mobile………scary charecters…….they’re always up to something.
`BZZZZ CLICK CLICK BZT CLANK BZZZZZZZ BOOM CLICK BZZZZZ
– Karl proving his rivethead worthyness.
BZZZ CLANK BZZZZ BZT BZT SHHHHHH CLANK CLICK CLICK BZT BZZZZZZ FIZZ CLANK BUZZZZZ BZZZZZ BZT BZT CLICK CLICK CLANK BZZZZZZZ BZZZZ CLICK CLICK BZT CLANK BZZZZZZZ BOOM CLICK BZZZZZ CLANK CLICK CLICK BZT BZZZZZZ FIZZ CLANK BUZZZZZ
translation- we need somewhere to pst noises of us making machine noises (without any sound altering assistance) and make it the “I AM MEGAZORD” contest, winner gets a computer chip surgically implanted in their skull.
Runner up gets a machine forged drill bit driven through their skull.
Um…for the record, my bf resents me calling him a Graver. Heh. My bad, of course. The boy is CG all the way.
you need to slap the little graver bitch in the face and call him susie, by the way I am the guy in the blue suit.
-karl
Naaaah, no slapping necessary.
A funny peice of information most Skinny Puppy fans find amusing, Ogre immensely enjoys gardening, and for the first few times I met him I had no idea he was Ogre, I just thaught he was “nerdy Kevin” It really is amazing that by his shows and music I assumed he would be a complete nutter, but he was really just a nice, nerdy guy. funny…………..
CON-VER-TER
CON-VER-TER
-Karl
I loooooooove Converter.