I want to begin by saying that I hate stereotypes. No wait, hate is to mild of a word to use. I despise stereotypes. Yes, I dress differently from everyone else. So what that the only colors in my wardrobe are red and black?! Who cares! Yes, I write dark and depressing poetry that is to deep for the shallow mind to understand. I’m not a social person either. I tend to be able to express my thoughts more on paper or drawings other than speaking out loud.
These are only a few of the many complaints I have. But are any of these..reasons shall I say, to dislike me? To put a label on me? To label me as something that people shrug off because they don’t understand someone? Labels… I hate those to. I was in a goth chat room the other night, because I feel that I can relate to those types of people better, but I was in there just chatting and this ignorant asshole comes in there and ruins the calm conversation my and my friends were having…. By saying such things as ” I hate goths. Goths are ugly. They are the ugliest people on this earth. All goths are fags. All goths should be put to death.”
Why would someone have such hatred.. towards a label. Labels aren’t even necessary. Everyone is their own person. They have their own individuality. They shouldn’t be reduced to a label. No one should be reduced to a label. But, needless to say, these comments offended many of the people I was talking to. And I don’t blame them. This incident brought me to the questions I’ve had before, but never voiced them. It’s like, why do people make anti-whatever websites. Why waste your time make something for someone or something you don’t even like? Why waste your time talking about someone you don’t even know? This world and a majority of the popualtion are ignorant to their surroundings. They care for many material things and have forgotten what is important in life. Their ignorance makes me have second thoughts about living in what our society has evolved into. Am I the only one that feels this way?
~*Saffron
<<<But are any of these..reasons shall I say, to dislike me?>>>
Methinks you already know the answer to that one.
<<<To put a label on me? To label me as something that people shrug off because they don’t understand someone?>>>
I understand the predicament. I’ve been there, and I imagine just about everyone else reading this has been there, too.
The trick is to *make* someone understand. Now don’t get me wrong… singlehandedly, you’ve no hope of changing the world. But you can change individuals. And that’s the only place to start.
It’s hard to do. For every success in making someone understand that I’m not a threat to anyone… there’s probably been at least 10 failures. But I can, at least, count a few more allies than I formerly could. And each one of them will be able to say to someone prejudiced (sp?) "I don’t know about that… I know this Goth who isn’t so bad…"
<<<Labels… I hate those to. I was in a goth chat room the other night, because I feel that I can relate to those types of people better, but I was in there just chatting and this ignorant asshole comes in there and ruins the calm conversation my and my friends were having…. By saying such things as " I hate goths. Goths are ugly. They are the ugliest people on this earth. All goths are fags. All goths should be put to death.">>>
Hmm. We talk/think/whatever about death enough as is. I don’t suppose we need any assistance, really. This guy probably would be one of the aforementioned 10 failures. But don’t let that concern you overly much. He’s one of the little people. You’re not. Work on the people with potential. That will serve you better in the end.
<<<Why would someone have such hatred.. towards a label. Labels aren’t even necessary. Everyone is their own person. They have their own individuality. They shouldn’t be reduced to a label. No one should be reduced to a label.>>>
The offensiveness of labels is really associated with their context, I think. Someone wants to call me "Goth," that’s fine by me if it’s just a simple statement. Someone who says "Goths should die (this means you)"… sure I’m going to be a little irked.
<<<This incident brought me to the questions I’ve had before, but never voiced them. It’s like, why do people make anti-whatever websites. Why waste your time make something for someone or something you don’t even like?>>>
That’s the gag… these people *like* to *not like* people/ideas/things/whatever.
<<<Their ignorance makes me have second thoughts about living in what our society has evolved into.>>>
Hate, unfortunately, is not a new thing. It’s been around since day one, and it’s going to be around till the end. It’s never going to go away, but we can all do a little bit to tone it down.
<<<Am I the only one that feels this way?>>>
You’re not alone. There’s a few sensible people still out there.
Sardonicus
seen blair w2?A girl says she gets a bad wrap for being a witch.Try anouncing that your a satanist.I worked for a bunch of christians for a while.they told me that even if I did believe in god, if I didnt worship him, I was a satanist.I agreed.If you don’t help the cause, your a hindrance, a voice of objection/reason.So now I’m a satanist.I love puppies and kittens, work hard and wear black.No one sees past the word satanist or the black clothes.
well analysed! An upside down cross tattooed to my left arm makes it hard to get a word in.First impressions….well you know what they say.And when I see a girl wearing a died black wedding dress, I think to myself…cool, someone who can express themselves, not conform.But others surely will NEVER understand any appeal.Only one persons opinion matters to me, MINE.I don’t go too outrageous(I live with my parent’s, I LIKE living there and need a job.So I satisfy myself with tattoos and a shaved head/ earings etc.)Your first impressions of someone who announces that their a satanist?
people who label you are doing it becuase they can’t comprehend you for who you really are so they create a label…they aren’t worth your time. don’t waste energy hating them, ignore their existance. don’t give them satisfaction by reacting. there ARE people out there that are above all that, seek and you shall find.
no matter how hard you try and no matter how right you are about the latter people are going to continue categorizing everything and labeling everyone. It gives them a sense of order I suppose. I know sad but true. I only hope we will change in the future though I sincerely doubt it.
I say to each their own. I am not going to criticise someone’s religion or beliefs because I know how that is. I know how it feels. I’ve been there, done that and am still going through with it. I am wiccan and go to school that is a minority of ( oh wait, shall i use the dreaded label system!!?? ) preps and jocks that have taken the liberty of dubbing me as ” the witch” so… originaility. it’s what makes us. It’s what some people in this world, such as me, still appreciate. And it’s what you should never let slip away. Because when you lose that you become like everyone else in this world, a mindless, senseless robot that says and does what people tell them to.
~Saffron
I see, judinging by your reply, that you yourself are one of those few sensible people. You know I’ve come to realize that’s it’s not worth taking the time to try and change someone or to make them understand. I guess your real friends and companions are the ones that you don’t have to explain anyhting to… mainly because they already understand.
~Saffron
I see, judging by your reply, that you yourself are one of those few sensible people. You know I’ve come to realize that’s it’s not worth taking the time to try and change someone or to make them understand. I guess your real friends and companions are the ones that you don’t have to explain anyhting to… mainly because they already understand.
~Saffron
<<<I see, judinging by your reply, that you yourself are one of those few sensible people.>>>
Thanks for the compliment. I am admittedly prone to occasional bouts of lucidity.
<<<You know I’ve come to realize that’s it’s not worth taking the time to try and change someone or to make them understand.>>>
I know how you feel. I spent a long time just… not dealing with people, because it’s easier that way. I still do that sometimes.
But the easy way isn’t always the best one. Now I’m not proposing that anyone become a "Goth Evangelist" (though the concept is interesting in its own right) but every once in a while, you’ll come across someone who’s worth working with.
<<<I guess your real friends and companions are the ones that you don’t have to explain anyhting to… mainly because they already understand.>>>
Or even better, when they don’t understand, but stick with you anyway. I’m lucky enough to be able to count at least one (Hi sis!)
Sardonicus